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sheldrake ([personal profile] tadorna) wrote2009-01-04 11:10 am
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What they're all talking about

I went to [livejournal.com profile] galactic_jack's birthday party last night and now (as predicted) I basically want to die. I should probably wait until the worst of the effects have passed off before attempting to communicate with the internet, but I'm just happy my fingers still work.

So. To prove it, here are my thoughts on Doctor Eleven.



Ok, so. I wanted it to be Paterson Joseph. I wanted it to be him so much. I've been a fan of his for ages, and I think he would have been great. About halfway through yesterday, I realised I was basically setting myself up for a huge disappointment, because it probably wasn't going to be him after all. And then I was inadvertantly spoiled by Jonathan Ross on Twitter, which gave me about half an hour to get the wailing and gnashing of teeth, the Googling and the going "who?" and "26?" out of the way before the announcement was made.

I was surprised to find I actually liked what I saw of him, though. He's not who I would have chosen. But there was something about his manner that really appealed to me. I like the fact that he's got kind of a weird face. I like that he's come out of nowhere! And at one point his hands went all Wallace-and-Grommitty. Somehow, I feel that bodes well.

With regards to the casting decision, I'm in two minds. Moff and co seemed to be saying they cast him despite his age, not because of it, which seems a hopeful sign. As [livejournal.com profile] galactic_jack said last night, though, they could have taken a risk and they didn't. It seems like a missed opportunity. I'd like to think it's as they described -- he was just the best they saw, and too good to pass up. But [livejournal.com profile] galactic_jack said something I thought was interesting: "As soon as they said 'He just looked like the Doctor, and he had the right hair', I knew he wasn't going to be black." To me, that does point to the idea that (I'm sure unintentionally) they had an established idea of who the Doctor is, and this was a safe option. Same old, same old...

But the casting process and the end result are two different things. On a personal level, I can't help feeling a bit sorry for the poor guy. He can't really win. He's too young, too white, too male, too obscure, too pretty, not pretty enough, too thin, too tall, too floppy-haired, too emo-kid, too southern, too posh, too estuary, too like David Tennant, not David Tennant, not Christopher Eccleston, not Paul McGann, not Sylvester McCoy, not Colin Baker, not Peter Davison, not Tom Baker, not Jon Pertwee, not David Troughton, not William Hartnell, not Who, too who?, too young, too young, too young, too young. All valid opinions, of course, but it's not like he can actually help any of it.

On the other hand, he does get to be the Doctor, so I don't feel that sorry for him.

I'd have loved it to be Paterson Joseph. But I hope Matt Smith turns out to be really great. Because like it or not, he is the Doctor now. And there is a pathetic part of me that's still just happy they're actually making Doctor Who, and putting it on television for us to watch, and like, or not like, or whatever. And I'm looking forward to that!

Matt.

[identity profile] lugna-vatten.livejournal.com 2009-01-04 11:52 am (UTC)(link)
If I may be so familiar as to refer to him just as 'Matt.'

I rather think they've made a good choice. Judging by the interview showing the 'real' Matt (as much as anybody can really be themselves with a camera shoved in their face) seems to be gifted with that slight eccentricity that bodes well for a good doctor (Tom Baker, Sylvester McCoy) and something about his face, which is both good-looking and strange-looking at the same time, has an alien quality as though the regeneration hasn't got something quite right (assuming the aim is to look human, of course.) Perhaps a younger doctor leads the programme into an older companion territory. Evelyn, in the Colin Baker audio adventures, is massively successful and while I wouldn't expect a direct copy of her someone more mature might make 'the mix' (shudders at the expression) interesting.

His youth, of course, means that if he enjoys the role and a)is popular and b)the BBC can afford it he could go on for a very long time as the Doctor. I wonder, though, whether he might want to get his hair cut for another job (or personal choice) which, since it is quite distinctive, could present a problem.


I also wonder whether we might see this 'one full year, one year of specials' cycle repeated. It means money could be spread between fewer episodes and that Matty (see, I'm getting more familiar by the moment) could go off and pursue other projects decreasing the likelihood that he'd get bored or tired.

To sum up, it's all a bit of a chin-strokingly, thoughtful "Hmmmm." But not in a doubtful way.

In the meantime I hope you don't die. Drink lots of tea, eat chocolate/toast/both and find something soothingly naff to watch.

Re: Matt.

[identity profile] sheldrake.livejournal.com 2009-01-04 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
If I may be so familiar as to refer to him just as 'Matt.'

You may. And I think you should.

gifted with that slight eccentricity that bodes well for a good doctor

Yes, that's exactly what I thought!

the regeneration hasn't got something quite right

Ooh, I love that idea! And I really hope they go the older companion route. Not sure they will, but I do hope so.

With regards to hair, maybe he should shave his head? Ha!

In the meantime I hope you don't die. Drink lots of tea, eat chocolate/toast/both and find something soothingly naff to watch.

This is exactly what I have planned. :)
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[personal profile] coeur_de_noir 2009-01-04 11:53 am (UTC)(link)
He's pretty in an odd, boffin way. I'm a bit devvoed that he is so young - I dont think I'll be having any pervy thoughts about him - but I'm hoping for the best, series wise.

Shame about Paterson. I wanted gay Paterson Doctor of Homosexyness. And you thought YOU were setting yourself up for disappointment. ;-) x

[identity profile] sheldrake.livejournal.com 2009-01-04 12:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I do like an odd boffin, it has to be said. And pervy thoughts have never been the main deal for me, when it comes to the Doctor. They're only ever a bonus.

And you thought YOU were setting yourself up for disappointment.

Ha! :) Oh well... maybe Paterson of Homosexy could be Twelve?

(love that icon, btw, it always makes me laugh)
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[identity profile] ia-ne.livejournal.com 2009-01-04 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm reading through all the 11th Doctor posts on my flist even though I have only a very fleeting knowledge of the subject *g* (I've seen half of the first episode with the 9th Doctor and read a Torchwood/Band of Brothers crossover fic, that's about it).

It's very entertaining for some reason! Even though I didn't know many of the rumored candidates, except of course for Eddie Izzard and Stephen Fry. And Dexter Fletcher!

[identity profile] purple-hazed.livejournal.com 2009-01-04 02:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I thinmk I started the rumour about Stephen and Eddie! LOL!

[identity profile] sheldrake.livejournal.com 2009-01-04 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha! Glad you're having fun. :) I never heard the Dexter Fletcher rumour though. More plausible than some I saw floating around.

[identity profile] purple-hazed.livejournal.com 2009-01-04 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
**applause**

All i could think was "26"??? That's a fantasy toyboy age, not a playing Doctor Who age!!

[identity profile] sheldrake.livejournal.com 2009-01-04 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, but by the time this actually roles around he'll be 27. At least! And Peter Davison was only 29 when he got the job.

[identity profile] kaydeefalls.livejournal.com 2009-01-04 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
After watching the full Confidential about it, I'm really starting to get behind this guy. I have faith in Davies and Moffat, and from the stories about the auditions, it sounds like he just walked in and blew it out of the water. And I'd rather have a GREAT Doctor than a Bold! New! Minority! Female! or whatever.

I'd have loved Paterson Joseph, too, but now that we've got Matt Smith, I'm willing to get excited about him, because he's GOING to be the Doctor, and isn't it more fun to get EXCITED about Eleven than whinge about him? :D (That's not directed at you, btw, but to some of the generic WTF I AM LEAVING FANDOM FOREVER posts I've seen around lately.)

[identity profile] sheldrake.livejournal.com 2009-01-04 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yes, a great Doctor is what we want all right! :)

he's GOING to be the Doctor, and isn't it more fun to get EXCITED about Eleven than whinge about him? :D

Well, that was my feeling, too. I do roll my eyes at fandom sometimes, some people just seem so willing to hate every single thing that ever happens in the show, you wonder how they've managed to make it this far. I seem to remember Catherine Tate caused a similar reaction, but it seems a lot of people who were going to leave fandom forever changed their minds and stayed on to whinge further. I've only myself to blame though - I have a bad habit of going looking for it.

According to Paul Cornell's blog, the internet as a whole has been rather more positive than a glance through LJ-based fandom might suggest. I really must get out more...

[identity profile] ukcalico.livejournal.com 2009-01-04 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
And I'd rather have a GREAT Doctor than a Bold! New! Minority! Female! or whatever.

OH THANK YOU ABSOLUTELY. The idea of casting on those grounds rather than He Just Clicked is crazy to me.

and isn't it more fun to get EXCITED

Yes yes yes! *bounces*

[identity profile] sheldrake.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I tell you, any reservations I may have had are now lost in the distant past. To be honest, they were pretty much gone as soon as he waved his hands around. I am basically a fickle creature, I was just pretending not to be for a few minutes. EXCITEMENT IS GO -- AND WE ONLY HAVE TO WAIT LIKE A YEAR OR SOMETHING!

[identity profile] ukcalico.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
JUST ONE YEAR!

[identity profile] brightest-blue.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
He looks like a great fit, actually! As far as I'm concerned, David Tennant isn't the hottest thing that ever walked the planet, but he totally worked as the Dr. I'm excited!

[identity profile] sheldrake.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I never need the doctor to be hot, anyway. I'm excited too! :D